GEORGE FOX workshop re: connecting justice and worship in faith communities

This is me looking at the list we came up with in the workshop. Who was there, and do you have any answers/suggestions for this questions we came up with? Do I need to further clarify the questions for those that weren't there?

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Comment by Mark Pierson on May 3, 2009 at 11:23am
I wish I could have been at this gig. I'm putting together a gathering in New Zealand for June 2010 on the same issues. We've been working on this connection of justice and worship for 8 or 9 years now.
Comment by bo on February 12, 2009 at 12:12pm
Actually last night we sang some songs acapella and it was really beautiful. A nice change. I think it depends on your attitude and posture as the one leading a group into worship. It seems that if i'm engaged and not just going through the motions the group follows.

I'm so thankful for this site it's nice to have a community of believers to communicate with. We live in a very small town on the coast and there isn't alot of conversation going on.
Comment by Todd Fadel on February 11, 2009 at 7:30pm
Bo, Aaron and I were talking about engagement today. At times, it seems that there is an impenetrable wall between you and those you wish to engage. I wonder if we need to have a conversation about approaches and what we all have tried to "get through". What have you tried?
Comment by bo on February 11, 2009 at 4:04pm
I was at this seminar it was really refreshing to hear this conversation. This issue of justice and the hurting and suffering in the world has been on my heart for the last year.

My wife and I hang out with high schoolers and I lead worship, but have a hard time getting them to stop texting and engage in worship. We've talked about what it means to worship and what it can look like, and that night and maybe the next meeting we had really great worship time. Then it was right back to texting and wrestling your neighbor.
Comment by Todd Fadel on February 7, 2009 at 8:53pm
just kidding. Here's the questions i we all came up with (you decide what we should tackle first):

How do the traditions of yesterday fit with what works now?
What are our creative limits?
What can we do to encourage more interactivity?
How can we communicate celebratory times genuinely?
How do we work with those who are disinterested?
How do we incorporate intercession for the world?
What is/what should be the role of music?
How do we convey suffering?
What if no one within the community creates?
How do we create an atmosphere that is condusive for the practices of worship?
How do we define the difference between leading and teaching?
How do we build strong relationships through worship?
What about non-musical forms? How do we introduce/incorporate?
What tools can we share to encourage a constant attitude of worship?
How do we get to "full participation"?
How do we incrementally introduce new approaches/forms?


“There is plenty of courage among us for the abstract but not for the concrete.” - Helen Keller

“Love, like truth and beauty, is concrete. Love is not fundamentally a sweet feeling; not, at heart, a matter of sentiment, attachment, or being "drawn toward." Love is active, effective, a matter of making reciprocal and mutually beneficial relation with one's friends and enemies. Love creates righteousness, or justice, here on earth. To make love is to make justice. As advocates and activists for justice know, loving involves struggle, resistance, risk.” - Carter Heyward


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